On Sat, 1 Dec 2018 at 14:56, John Gardner wrote: > > It does'nt do any good to design a better product which your > > Chinese factory will ignore, in favor of the lowest possible manu- > > facturing cost that'll move product, while the important-looking > > white guys in $5K suits in Westchester pretend they're oblivious... > > > Point understood. And/but the quality of Chinese goods sold on foreign markets is largely the "fault" of the buyers. As you indicate. It's not enough to design a better product. You need to do so for a customer who wants the better results AND is willing to do what it takes to ensure these are achieved. It's doable. But - only with a will. I think that every or nearly every new design or major change in anything I designed that was built in China needed recall or remediation of the first batch despite the most strenuous efforts on my part to ensure the factory and the customer did not make it otherwise. This not due to any design issues (another matter :-) ) but due to manufacturing funnies of various sorts. Even when we had an excellent in factory inspection company operating at one stage a 'first batch sneak through' occurred. I was in the factory on that occasion and tried desperately to have a trucked load of product recalled when it became evident what had happened. Alas, they managed to get delivered into customs store and thus took weeks to recover :-) :-(. Russell > > --=20 http://www.piclist.com/techref/piclist PIC/SX FAQ & list archive View/change your membership options at http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/piclist .