On Sun, 21 Oct 2018 at 19:49, Sean Breheny wrote: .... I've never seen a mobility scooter which used Li Ion batteries but a quick search > indicates that they do exist. > I've seen images of them - including a flame shield (of suspect capability)= .. I was a little 'nonplussed' by .... members of the public, who heard the man crying out for help but were unable to assist him because of the flames. ... I'd hope that a fairly intense inferno would not prevent attempts to push a machine over or some other action. That said, I do appreciate that there really are sensible limits - I have been in a house fire, standing as close to a doorway as pain would unreasonably allow, looking into a room that looked akin to the inside of a bonfire, and being told that "grandma is in there", and knowing that an attempt at entry would mean certain death and that grandma was already very dead indeed. [Apparent cause: smoking in bed :-( ]. Russell --=20 http://www.piclist.com/techref/piclist PIC/SX FAQ & list archive View/change your membership options at http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/piclist .