With much pondering my calculations (often wrong) minus losses would imply that there is enough energy in 250ml of diesel to lift a 360 tonne block of chocolate 1m. Is that ball park? On Thu, 4 Oct 2018 18:34 RussellMc wrote: > Concrete weights stacked to store energy and destacked to provide output. > It works (of course) but will have difficulty being cost competitive with > other storage technologies. > > > > https://qz.com/1355672/stacking-concrete-blocks-is-a-surprisingly-efficie= nt-way-to-store-energy/ > > Claimed end to end efficiency is around 85%. > LiIon efficiency said to be around 90%. (Actual figure depends on methods > of charge/discharge). > > ________________________________ > > A "train" (or multiple units) on a track with cable connection may allow > improved ease of charge/discharge. > Energy storable per mass is less per distance moved due to non-vertical > track, but can make use of long slopes. > The excessively enthused could move 'wagons' sideways at top and bottom t= o > increase capacity. > > A single looped cable would allow multiple 'wagons' to be pulled up or to > descend using existing chair-lift type coupling/decoupling. > > Masses & heights involved are "somewhat daunting" > > 1 kWh =3D 3,600,000 watt-seconds > ~=3D 360,000 kg.m (100% efficiency) =3D eg > 360 tonne x 1m > 36 t x 10m > 3.6t x 100m > 360 kg x 100 x 10m > 36 kg x 1000 x 10m > ... > > > > Russell > -- > http://www.piclist.com/techref/piclist PIC/SX FAQ & list archive > View/change your membership options at > http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/piclist > --=20 http://www.piclist.com/techref/piclist PIC/SX FAQ & list archive View/change your membership options at http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/piclist .