> The really fun trick here is they make no effort to capture or crack any = codes, just boost a signal. And then keep repeating it so the car thinks the key is in it so once start= ed the engine keeps running. Although having said that, I know of an instance with a Volkswagen where an= owner opened the car and started it, went back in the house, left keys on = the table and (absent minded) went and got in the car and drove a couple of= hundred miles. Didn't realise he had left the keys behind until he had sto= pped the car, couldn't lock it, or restart it. I haven't )yet) tried with my Ford to see how long the engine will stay run= ning without the key in the car. --=20 http://www.piclist.com/techref/piclist PIC/SX FAQ & list archive View/change your membership options at http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/piclist .