> They are not talking about the button fob types. They are referring to th= e proximity fobs, > no buttons. The thief uses what amounts to a range extender to make it se= em like the fob is close to the car. But it is also applicable to button fobs where you have keyless start/stop,= as these have a transponder as well. My Ford Mondeo works like this. If I = get out of the car with the engine running the dash displays "key outside v= ehicle", so it knows ... --=20 http://www.piclist.com/techref/piclist PIC/SX FAQ & list archive View/change your membership options at http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/piclist .