I always keep my car keys under my tin foil hat :-) __________________________________________ David C Brown 43 Bings Road Whaley Bridge High Peak Phone: 01663 733236 Derbyshire eMail: dcb.home@gmail.com SK23 7ND web: www.bings-knowle.co.uk/dcb *Sent from my etch-a-sketch* On 9 July 2018 at 12:50, AB Pearce - UKRI STFC wrote: > Living in the land where this problem seems to be highly prevalent I have > often considered this. > > I'm wondering if a standard antistatic bag is enough of a faraday shield, > the IR reflective film on my office windows are enough to stop a GPS > receiver working, so I suspect an antistatic bag will be enough. Has the > added advantage you can still identify the correct button to push to try > and unlock the car to prove it is a good enough shield. > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: piclist-bounces@mit.edu On Behalf Of > RussellMc > Sent: 09 July 2018 12:21 > To: Microcontroller discussion list - Public. > Subject: [EE]:: Wrapping key-FOBs in tinfoil > > Comments on this article are invited. > I have already written a response on this article to a friend but will > withhold posting it for a while to see what others say. > > In this article a number of senior security experts are reported to > recommend wrapping car electronic key fobs* with tinfoil when carried dai= ly > and maybe storing in a metal can at home. > The aim is to create a Faraday cage to foil (groan) "cyber-thieves' " > attempts to copy the unlock codes. > (* ie 'keys' with wireless unlocking capabilities ) > > https://www.stuff.co.nz/motoring/105333168/why-you- > might-want-to-wrap-your-car-key-in-foil > > > Russell > > ________________________ > > Cited experts include: > > > Holly Hubert, who retired in 2017 from the FBI in Buffalo, New York. > Now, CEO of GlobalSecurityIQ, > > > Moshe Shlisel, CEO of GuardKnox Cyber Technologies and a veteran of > > the > Israeli Air Force who helped develop cyber protection for fighter jets an= d > missile defense systems. > ... "The credit card holders don't work because they're essentially a ne= t > rather than a wall." ... > He visited Detroit recently to meet with carmakers. He's already working > with Daimler on Mercedes-Benz vehicles and the Volkswagen Group on Porsch= e, > Audi and Volkswagen products to protect them from hackers. Other clients > and potential clients have asked to remain confidential. > > Shlisel says: "The best thing you can do is keep your key in a small tin > can wrapped with aluminum foil. But in a purse or pocket, just aluminum > foil will do the job." > > > Unspecified: Cybersecurity experts say privately that anyone who knows > anything about the ease of auto and personal data hacking practices safe > fob storage. > > > Clifford Neuman, director of the USC Center for Computer Systems > > Security > in Los Angeles, points to the millions of consumers who now carry their > credit cards in a protective pocket designed to work as a Faraday cage. > > > Unspecified: People who store their fobs in Faraday cages aren't > paranoid, experts say. > > > Faye Francy, executive director of the nonprofit Automotive > > Information > Sharing and Analysis Center, which specialises in cybersecurity strategie= s. > "Automakers are starting to implement security features in every stage of > design and manufacturing. This includes the key fob." > -- > http://www.piclist.com/techref/piclist PIC/SX FAQ & list archive > View/change your membership options at http://mailman.mit.edu/ > mailman/listinfo/piclist > > -- > http://www.piclist.com/techref/piclist PIC/SX FAQ & list archive > View/change your membership options at > http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/piclist > --=20 http://www.piclist.com/techref/piclist PIC/SX FAQ & list archive View/change your membership options at http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/piclist .