I'm having a hard time finding something online, and I think half my proble= m is I don't know the correct term for what I am looking for. I've seen RG-6 coax cables (often supplied by the cable company) with plast= ic pieces on the F connector ends, which make it very easy to tighten the c= onnection by hand. I am not sure if these are integrated with the F connect= or itself, or a separate piece that slides over the connector. I'd like to buy some of these, ideally as crimp on connectors, to make a nu= mber of short patch cables. Or buy some ready made cables if the price is n= ot too bad (but I suspect I can do it for less myself, and I already have a= crimp tool for F connectors). Is anyone familiar with these, and perhaps k= nows the term for them, so I can search around for solutions? Chris Smolinski Black Cat Systems Westminster, MD USA http://www.blackcatsystems.com --=20 http://www.piclist.com/techref/piclist PIC/SX FAQ & list archive View/change your membership options at http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/piclist .