> I would consider clipping a thermocouple probe to the top edge Unfortunately the paddle arrangement makes any penetration into the contents impossible(?) with a fixed probe arrangement. The liquid level can vary so the probe either needs to go all the way deep or be easily variable between batches. > around 200C you will almost certainly need a thermocouple as I don't think PRT probes for that temperature are too readily available That was sobering, but ebay shows plenty that are rated to 400degC. A thermocouple is fine otherwise but considering I'm going to tinker with the slip ring first it would have been a deal breaker. --=20 http://www.piclist.com/techref/piclist PIC/SX FAQ & list archive View/change your membership options at http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/piclist .