On 29 Jan 2018 at 20:26, Harold Hallikainen wrote: > I've been using these for several years. The "legged" versions have a > fairly large footprint, but are good for debug. The legless versions need > to be held in place, but work well for production programming. The clips > to hold the legless version in place are marginal and VERY easy to lose. > I've thought about undersizing the holes for the alignment pins a bit so > the board would hold the alignment pins securely, but I have not done > that. Most of my stuff has holes for the legs. A couple products don't > have room though, so I lost a bunch of retaining clips while debugging. Thanks Harold, good to hear about your experiences. You mighn't have lost s= o=20 many clips if you used the official "Bend-It-Yourself TM" hanger...=20 http://www.tag-connect.com/TC20X0-CLIP-HANGER ;-) I was wondering why the clips come in packs of three. I will glue one to my= =20 prototype PCB and see if that makes it stay not lost for a reasonable time. Brent --=20 http://www.piclist.com/techref/piclist PIC/SX FAQ & list archive View/change your membership options at http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/piclist .