On Thu, Jan 4, 2018 at 8:04 PM, David C Brown wrote: > It is unlikely that the DLLs in two very different systems are corrupted = in > the same way. > > Although I describe myself as a hobbyist I worked for 40 years designing > digital logic and I know a great deal about the problems that crosstalk c= an > cause. > > I have done more tests with the 5cm cable, keeping clock and data apart. > In both working and failing scenes the edge speed of the clock is tens = of > nano seconds. > If the hardware is ok and the software is ok, then everything else is fine.= :-) AFAICS, WinUSB works with almost every system, without much problems. MPLAB simply uses WinUSB. Another option would be to try with another USB controller. In some rare cases there are flaky USB controllers/Hubs etc. --=20 http://www.piclist.com/techref/piclist PIC/SX FAQ & list archive View/change your membership options at http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/piclist .