MEK is in the same family (ketones) as acetone. Ketones are molecules consisting of two alkane chains (like methyl, ethyl, butyl, propyl, etc.) joined by a carbonyl group (carbon double-bonded to an oxygen). MEK has somewhat higher toxicity than acetone but it isn't all that nasty (compared to benzene or the chlorinated methanes). I think it was banned because it is a persistent environmental pollutant. I am very surprised that you were able to use MEK to dissolve IC packages. Did you heat it up to do that? How long did it take? I have done some IC "de-capping" and the only way I've learned to do it is using either concentrated hot nitric acid (works quickly - in about 5 minutes) or concentrated hot sulfuric acid (takes much longer, about an hour). On Fri, Dec 8, 2017 at 2:56 PM, Jean-Paul Louis wrote: > I read all about those solvents, and I am surprised that no-one has yet > mentioned MEK (Methyl Ethyl Ketone). I used it long before it was banned > from Manufacturing Floor. Mostly was to dissolve epoxy packaging on IC > before > doing a die inspection with electron microscope. Also used to dissolve > potting > compound for some very critical repairs. > > That was a real nasty solvent, but we used good precautions like gloves, > masks and vented hoods above test area. > > Just another $0.02, > Jean-Paul > N1JPL > > > > > On Dec 8, 2017, at 7:31 AM, Sean Breheny wrote: > > > > Bunny suits?! That seems a bit over-the-top unless this was an > application > > where you were spraying large quantities (several liters) into the air. > > > > I obviously have not done independent research on this - I am only goin= g > by > > what I've read in MSDS and other published sources that I read before > using > > these chemicals. The US Centers for Disease Control lists the IDLH > > (Immediately Dangerous to Life or Health) threshold at 500ppm for both > > benzene and toluene but they allow up to 100ppm permissible exposure > level > > in the workplace for toluene but only 1 ppm for benzene. They also do n= ot > > mention any risk of cancer for toluene but they do for benzene. So, I'm > not > > saying that toluene is just dandy and no precautions are needed, but > rather > > that it is considerably safer than its "parent" molecule benzene for > > long-term exposure. > > > > I also just learned that toluene is a significant risk to pregnant wome= n > > with regard to possible miscarriage so I guess it can be very nasty for > > some people. > > > > Sean > > > > > > On Fri, Dec 8, 2017 at 4:13 AM, wrote: > > > >>> > >>> Toluene is also not all that nasty. It is methylbenzene but the methy= l > >> group > >>> seems to prevent most of the carcinogenic action. Maximum safe > short-term > >>> dose is less than acetone/isopropanol. > >>> > >> > >> Well, that doesn't equate to the hoops we had to jump through to use a > >> toluene based conformal coat on our PCBs. A suitable booth with high > volume > >> air extraction and use of full bunny suits while handling it. > >> > >> > >> > >> -- > >> http://www.piclist.com/techref/piclist PIC/SX FAQ & list archive > >> View/change your membership options at > >> http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/piclist > >> > > -- > > http://www.piclist.com/techref/piclist PIC/SX FAQ & list archive > > View/change your membership options at > > http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/piclist > > Just my $0.02, > > Jean-Paul > N1JPL > > > > > -- > http://www.piclist.com/techref/piclist PIC/SX FAQ & list archive > View/change your membership options at > http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/piclist > --=20 http://www.piclist.com/techref/piclist PIC/SX FAQ & list archive View/change your membership options at http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/piclist .