I have local sources for helium balloons that use actual helium, not "ballo= on gas" so I pay about $1 for 2 or so liters of gas in a convenient disposa= ble container. I don't need pressure, I'm always pulling the gas anyway. =20 My Neon and Argon come in glass flasks for $70/2l Still working on a cost effective source for Xenon. -----Original Message----- From: piclist-bounces@mit.edu [mailto:piclist-bounces@mit.edu] On Behalf Of= Sean Breheny Sent: Friday, November 3, 2017 10:02 AM To: Microcontroller discussion list - Public. Subject: Re: [EE] Vacuum plumbing Is there any reason you don't use argon as your rinse gas? It's much cheape= r. On Fri, Nov 3, 2017 at 11:15 AM, Van Horn, David < david.vanhorn@backcountr= yaccess.com> wrote: > Fortunately my only use for helium is as a rinse gas. Vac the system,=20 > fill with He, then vac it again, and call it clean. :) > > -----Original Message----- > From: piclist-bounces@mit.edu [mailto:piclist-bounces@mit.edu] On=20 > Behalf Of alan.b.pearce@stfc.ac.uk > Sent: Friday, November 3, 2017 3:30 AM > To: piclist@mit.edu > Subject: RE: [EE] Vacuum plumbing > > > I still wish I could find a book/document/etc that describes the=20 > > building of a vacuum system for the range of 1 torr to 10 microns or so= .. > > Seems to be a black art. > > Judging by the difficulties a program I am working on is having=20 > sealing helium over a temperature range, it is very much a black art. > > Thankfully I'm only involved in the electricals ... > > > > -- > http://www.piclist.com/techref/piclist PIC/SX FAQ & list archive=20 > View/change your membership options at http://mailman.mit.edu/=20 > mailman/listinfo/piclist > > -- > http://www.piclist.com/techref/piclist PIC/SX FAQ & list archive=20 > View/change your membership options at=20 > http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/piclist > -- http://www.piclist.com/techref/piclist PIC/SX FAQ & list archive View/chang= e your membership options at http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/piclis= t --=20 http://www.piclist.com/techref/piclist PIC/SX FAQ & list archive View/change your membership options at http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/piclist .