I am now totally fasting. Water and electrolytes, selected for no sugar or= salt. =20 Today I hit 1/3 of my goal, -33# in 19 days.. Sugars are running in the mi= d 70's which is about 3x less than they were, and I am no no meds for that. BP varies, but averages dead normal.=20 Ketones are slightly elevated, as expected. I have so much energy I'm bouncing off the walls.=20 The occasional hungry feeling which passes in minutes. In the potato phase, I was following Ray's plan as described by Penn, all y= ou can eat, which for me worked out to one or two, once a day. --=20 http://www.piclist.com/techref/piclist PIC/SX FAQ & list archive View/change your membership options at http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/piclist .