Does it allow debugging to the same level as the microChip ICD? __________________________________________ David C Brown 43 Bings Road Whaley Bridge High Peak Phone: 01663 733236 Derbyshire eMail: dcb.home@gmail.com SK23 7ND web: www.bings-knowle.co.uk/dcb *Sent from my etch-a-sketch* On 9 October 2017 at 19:02, Chris McSweeny wrote: > I also switched from PICs to AVRs years ago - at the time I was intereste= d > in performance in a small package and AVRs far outstripped PICs (and stil= l > do). Initially I continued using assembler, but whilst I still have some > legacy stuff it's also a long time since I've done anything new apart fro= m > in C. > > Anyway, I have a Dragon, and it works fine for what I do - for through ho= le > devices it has space for a ZIF socket for programming which you patch to > the Dragon's programming pins - you can just use individual patch wires, > but I made up specific patch cables for my common use. For onboard > programming you simply patch from the programming pins to an onboard > programming connector. It does all normal forms of programming - SPI, JTA= G, > PDI etc. so there's no obvious reason you'd need anything else. > > Chris > > On Mon, Oct 9, 2017 at 6:48 PM, David C Brown wrote: > > > Thanks > > > > AVR studio looks attractive but my main problem is in understanding the > > hardware programmers/debuggers. The JTAG ICE doesn't seem to be > available > > and anyway was a COM port device so not suitable. There is a ATMEL--IC= E > > (USB) that looks promising but there is also the cheaper Dragon which I > > don't really understand.. Guess it is over to the AVR forums > > > > __________________________________________ > > David C Brown > > 43 Bings Road > > Whaley Bridge > > High Peak Phone: 01663 733236 > > Derbyshire eMail: dcb.home@gmail.com > > SK23 7ND web: www.bings-knowle.co.uk/dcb > > > > > > > > > > *Sent from my etch-a-sketch* > > > > On 9 October 2017 at 14:08, Van Horn, David < > > david.vanhorn@backcountryaccess.com> wrote: > > > > > > > > AVR Studio has always been my tool of choice. The Jtag Ice is very > > > useful, but not essential. > > > I think you'll find it a refreshing departure from the PIC. I starte= d > > > using the AVRs back when the 8515 was new, and never did PIC > development > > > again. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Could anyone give me any direct advice on getting started or direct m= e > to > > > the better of the overwhelming number of web resources? > > > > > > > > > > > > __________________________________________ > > > David C Brown > > > 43 Bings Road > > > Whaley Bridge > > > High Peak Phone: 01663 733236 > > > Derbyshire eMail: dcb.home@gmail.com > > > SK23 7ND web: www.bings-knowle.co.uk/dcb > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > *Sent from my etch-a-sketch* > > > -- > > > http://www.piclist.com/techref/piclist PIC/SX FAQ & list archive > > > View/change your membership options at http://mailman.mit.edu/ > > > mailman/listinfo/piclist > > > > > > -- > > > http://www.piclist.com/techref/piclist PIC/SX FAQ & list archive > > > View/change your membership options at > > > http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/piclist > > > > > -- > > http://www.piclist.com/techref/piclist PIC/SX FAQ & list archive > > View/change your membership options at > > http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/piclist > > > -- > http://www.piclist.com/techref/piclist PIC/SX FAQ & list archive > View/change your membership options at > http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/piclist > --=20 http://www.piclist.com/techref/piclist PIC/SX FAQ & list archive View/change your membership options at http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/piclist .