Op 09/10/2017 om 11:45 schreef David C Brown: > Probably not the ideal place to ask Why not? it is the same company :) > but I am contemplating giving up on > PICS because of the wretched development tools and AVR looks, > superficially, attractive. It is the same company :) My advice would be to switch to 32-bit chips and C++. Cortex-M0 chips=20 and modules are very cheap. --=20 Wouter "Objects? No Thanks!" van Ooijen --=20 http://www.piclist.com/techref/piclist PIC/SX FAQ & list archive View/change your membership options at http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/piclist .