I ran across the Brave browser in my internet travels and it appears to be valid and well intentioned. Before I'll use it, it must be open source and it must not use java. Your mileage will vary::> Has anyone else here used Brave? https://thetinhat.com/blog/thoughts/brave-browser.html And, incidentally, Ghostery detects no tracking when the above URL is connected to. GL. Art --=20 http://www.piclist.com/techref/piclist PIC/SX FAQ & list archive View/change your membership options at http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/piclist .