> 1. There were 25 postings on the Piclist and not one of them was > PIC related Hi Bob, I suspect bare micros are no longer the entry level when it comes to software engineering and so the questions of old just don't arise in the quantity they used to I've been a mentor on a NZ schools forum for many years and have not yet helped, or even seen, anyone with a PIC issue, because they simply don't use them. It's all PICAXE, Arduino, Raspberry Pi and $5 modules from Alibaba or Sparkfun. Programming is in some HLL like BASIC, Python etc 20 years ago we didn't have the luxury of fast micros in corporatised hybrids and a zillion libraries on the web and had to do it ourselves When I have a project to share with them it's in PIC assembly with comments to explain the logic and a schematic, which they seem to follow and understand. The intelligence is there but I feel they are mostly ignorant of how a micro actually works and cheap turnkey modules have deprived them of investigating component choice and circuit design Joe --- This email has been checked for viruses by AVG. http://www.avg.com --=20 http://www.piclist.com/techref/piclist PIC/SX FAQ & list archive View/change your membership options at http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/piclist .