It has LVP, I'll have to check on what state it's in. The system is 5V. MCLR has a cap to ground, but we pulled that off and no help. MCLR is pull= ed up with 10k, so taking that pin to high voltage would be ok. Whenever the programmer tries to read from the chip I get zeroes. Even the= new chips from Digikey. This is reaching WAY back for me too. An F84 project was how I first got i= ntroduced to the piclist, back in maybe 95 or 96? That one was a beacon tr= ansmitter for 144-148MHz with a user program in EE, interpreted by code in = flash, and changing the transmit frequency, CWID and a bunch of other featu= res on the fly. I still have a board or two somewhere. -----Original Message----- From: piclist-bounces@mit.edu [mailto:piclist-bounces@mit.edu] On Behalf Of= Sean Breheny Sent: Wednesday, July 19, 2017 1:04 PM To: Microcontroller discussion list - Public. Subject: Re: [EE] RE: PIC16LF73 Pulling a few things from the dark recesses of my memory: Despite being an LF chip, maybe it needs 5V for programming? Or maybe it ca= nnot operate at 5V and needs 3.3V? Also, is this one of those chips which had a low-voltage programming method= and needed a pin (called LVP?) pulled high or low to ensure proper operati= on of the normal ICSP method? Sean On Wed, Jul 19, 2017 at 1:32 PM, Van Horn, David < david.vanhorn@backcountr= yaccess.com> wrote: > Still having no luck. > I got some fresh F73 parts from Digikey, and the programmer looks like=20 > it's unable to communicate with the chip. > Is there a wiring guide that covers this specifically? I need a known > working starting point. > > Sometimes, doing someone a favor is way more complicated than it looked. > > > -- > http://www.piclist.com/techref/piclist PIC/SX FAQ & list archive=20 > View/change your membership options at=20 > http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/piclist > -- http://www.piclist.com/techref/piclist PIC/SX FAQ & list archive View/chang= e your membership options at http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/piclis= t --=20 http://www.piclist.com/techref/piclist PIC/SX FAQ & list archive View/change your membership options at http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/piclist .