Still having no luck.=20 I got some fresh F73 parts from Digikey, and the programmer looks like it's= unable to communicate with the chip.=20 Is there a wiring guide that covers this specifically? I need a known wor= king starting point.=20 Sometimes, doing someone a favor is way more complicated than it looked. --=20 http://www.piclist.com/techref/piclist PIC/SX FAQ & list archive View/change your membership options at http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/piclist .