I think part of this is determined by the detents, how many, etc. If you ch= oose an encoder with no detents then there is no way to know what state it = will stop in. If it's optical or magnetic, and you loose power to the sensor, then it may= not be in the same state when you apply power as it was when shut down.=20 They are a barrel of fun.=20 --=20 http://www.piclist.com/techref/piclist PIC/SX FAQ & list archive View/change your membership options at http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/piclist .