>From a GMail ad ! :-( - a Chinese supplier of high to very high power BLDC motors, LiFePO4 cells and batteries, controllers, finished products ... A high power DC motor applications black hole. Many products are priced - which is unusual. Prices seem generally reasonable if not actually low :-). Their products may only be the batteries, motors, controllers ... with end-products being equipment that their products are used in. Many examples given. SEEM highly legitimate. Extremely impressive cross section of products and capabilities. Buyer beware / Caveat Emptor / YMMV / ... as ever. http://www.goldenmotor.com/ _________________________ Some only examples: EV batteries 8 10 15 Ah cylindrical cells "381220" http://www.goldenmotor.com/batterypack.htm eg Electric outboard motors - 3 6 10 15 20 50 HP Sine wave controllers. Magic Pie bicycle hub motors. 400W, 1000W http://www.goldenmotor.com/e-Bike-DIY/DIY-ebikekit.php Electric motorcycles. Several manufacturers http://www.goldenmotor.com/eMotorcycle/frame-emotor.htm (I think the Italian Dall'Antonia would have trouble reaching the claimed 140 kph) EV motors 10 kW. 20 kW peak http://www.goldenmotor.com/frame-bldcmotor.htm Wheelchairs http://www.goldenmotor.com/wheelchair.htm 25 (50) kW BLDCM 40 kg. Liquid cooling. http://www.goldenmotor.com/eCar/frame-eCar.htm Boats http://www.goldenmotor.com/eBoat/frame-eboat.htm --=20 http://www.piclist.com/techref/piclist PIC/SX FAQ & list archive View/change your membership options at http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/piclist .