Dwayne points these out to us when they go on sale: P-Star 25K50 Micro https://www.pololu.com/product/3150 Dave On 28 September 2016 at 08:31, Gordon Williams wrote: > http://ww1.microchip.com/downloads/en/DeviceDoc/30010119A.pdf > > The MPLAB Xpress Evaluation Board (DM164140) looks interesting at $10 > with free shipping (don't know where) with a PIC16F18855 on it. They > could have made it a lot more compact though, shame. Seems like it is > one sided and the reverse side is not shown. The programmer takes up > one end of the board. > > Something to keep in mind. > > Thanks, > > Gordon Williams > > > > On 16-09-28 01:16 AM, Chris Roper wrote: > > The MPLab Xpress Development Board > > http://www.microchip.com/mplab/mplab-xpress and GCBasic > > https://sourceforge.net/projects/gcbasic/ make a good alternative. > > The MikroBUS Expansion footprint has hundreds of board available too. > > > > Cheers > > Chris > > > > > > On Wed, Sep 28, 2016 at 4:21 AM, Gordon Williams > wrote: > > > >> I've used JAL (http://www.casadeyork.com/jalv2/ ) for a number of > large > >> PIC projects in the past where I have made up my own PCB. > >> > >> JAL is something that I can get my head around and understand. It > >> creates assembler code that is quite efficient without a lot of > >> overhead, you can look at the asm code if you want or run it through a > >> MPLAB sim to check timing or debugging, plus a number of other reasons= .. > >> It is simple and maps well to the data sheets. > >> > >> C/C++ has too many ways to shoot yourself in the foot and get unintend= ed > >> consequences for my liking. A lot of it just looks like gibberish too= .. > >> Not to start a flame war. > >> > >> The USB Bit Whacker and the pyMCU are the kinds of things that I'm > >> looking for, but too bad that they are $25! I guess it is a volume > >> thing and I'm not going to see anything in the Nano price range. > >> > >> thanks, > >> > >> Gordon > >> > >> > >> On 16-09-27 09:34 PM, Neil wrote: > >>> So what language are you planning to use? Assembly? Perhaps try > >>> assembly on the Atmel chip? > >>> > >>> There is also something called Ardublock for the Arduino that's a > visual > >>> programming tool somewhat like App Inventor for Android ... cringe! > >>> > >>> Alternatively, this may be more expensive, but there's Python availab= le > >>> on the PIC here... > >>> http://www.circuitsforfun.com/pymcu.html > >>> > >>> Cheers > >>> -Neil. > >>> > >>> > >>> On 9/27/2016 8:28 PM, Gordon Williams wrote: > >>>> Currently I'm working on a small project using an Arduino Nano. I lo= ve > >>>> the small form factor and the price of 3-4 dollars is great. > >>>> > >>>> I can't say that I like C or the Arduino language. Is there somethi= ng > >>>> similar in size and cost with a PIC on it? I haven't been able to > find > >>>> anything. > >>>> > >>>> Gordon Williams > >>>> > >>>> > >> -- > >> http://www.piclist.com/techref/piclist PIC/SX FAQ & list archive > >> View/change your membership options at > >> http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/piclist > >> > > -- > http://www.piclist.com/techref/piclist PIC/SX FAQ & list archive > View/change your membership options at > http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/piclist > --=20 http://www.piclist.com/techref/piclist PIC/SX FAQ & list archive View/change your membership options at http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/piclist .