A colleague has a (red) t-shirt that says: I am an engineer - let's save time and=20 assume I'm right The thing is he usually is. (We usually are??) I told a social group of this and a wife of another engineer nodded vigorou= sly. http://dilbert.com/strip/2003-02-02 ;o) Stephen -----Original Message----- From: piclist-bounces@mit.edu [mailto:piclist-bounces@mit.edu] On Behalf Of= James Cameron Sent: Tuesday, 6 September 2016 9:19 AM To: Microcontroller discussion list - Public. Subject: Re: [EE] TL499A not starting, needs transients? > Does that sound arrogant? > It certainly does to me !!! :-). > In this case I'm confident enough [tm] that it's right to risk the > unusual* just for fun. >=20 > ie the scope traces show the FB pin being driven at voltages which are=20 > utterly improper in a correctly functioning circuit. The op-amp is=20 > essentially passing its power supply rail through to its output. Once=20 > it's working as an opamp the Vout will fall to about 1.25V regardless=20 > of Vsupply. Verified, thanks. > Russell >=20 > * The risk is acting in a way which seems to me to sound arrogant. > I'm told by a surprising (to me) number of people that I come across=20 > as / am arrogant in many cases. > I suspect that it may be more oblivious / differently perspectivised / ..= .. > in many such cases, but, what would I know? :-) Yes, an engineers' social disease. I get it too. A formative experience w= hen 20 years old; being lectured by a manager on attitude, convinced me to = adjust my communication style toward social lying. "It's a nice day!" Might be worth an [OT] tag discussion ... how is an engineer to cope? -- James Cameron http://quozl.netrek.org/ -- http://www.piclist.com/techref/piclist PIC/SX FAQ & list archive View/chang= e your membership options at http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/piclis= t --=20 http://www.piclist.com/techref/piclist PIC/SX FAQ & list archive View/change your membership options at http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/piclist .