"VAX-11/780 was when DEC joined the 32-bit word size tidal wave." I regret that the only experience I had with this marvelous machine was=20 as a student programmer. I went back to school in the mid 80's and finished up a BS in computer=20 Sci. AFIK, there was no such degree when I dropped out in the early 60's. The 360-30 (2030) was mostly a microprocessor machine that emulated the=20 360 instruction set. All of the products I was ever involved with were=20 8-bit channels. The Model 30 had about a 60 bit word and a bunch of registers. Capacitor=20 read only storage Was as bad as it sounds like. "1403's byte or word size" Did not matter, that was whatever the control unit did. Being fully buffere= d meant that it was as slow as needed to be but normally faster than anythi= ng else on the electrical part. "1620" Kind of an oddball descendant of the 1130 world. Down right wierd in=20 that it used a table lookup scheme rather than an ALU. Sometimes reffered to as the CADET machine, Can't Add Don't Even Try. "When young, inexperienced, & imbued with religious ferver, I designed=20 record layouts that were longer than 80 columns just to make the IBM card-is-king oriented people think. :-)" I was in marketing for a while too. Exclusive features help sell! --=20 John Ferrell W8CCW Julian NC 27283 It is better to walk alone, than with a crowd going the wrong direction. --Diane Grant --=20 http://www.piclist.com/techref/piclist PIC/SX FAQ & list archive View/change your membership options at http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/piclist .