Thanks for the replies on liquid level sensing. Another aspect of the problem is detecting fan failure, which can be done by measuring current or a rotation sensor, but doesn't actually tell if the fan is moving air. Blocked intake makes fan spin faster; it is not moving as much mass, but the same could happen if the chimney is working well from the heat of the day. I'm interested in comments on anemometers, air flow sensors, mass flow sensors, or pressure sensors relative to ambient. The space to work within is a few yards of 3" diameter plastic pipe. I'm fine with drilling it, because if I change my mind I can plug it with kapton tape or silicone caulk. The environment can be excessively dirty or wet. Occasionally an insect gets into the system, lays eggs, and a few days later a swarm will try to leave. Occasionally the dew point is just right for condensation in the pipe. The fan (at the moment) is a 90mm 12V DC rated at 59 CFM, 3.8 watts, 0.32 amps. The corners get cut off and foam padding added to fit it into 100mm nominal (4") plumbing pipe. Wish for circular fans. ;-) --=20 James Cameron http://quozl.netrek.org/ --=20 http://www.piclist.com/techref/piclist PIC/SX FAQ & list archive View/change your membership options at http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/piclist .