> Back in days of yore there were people with names like Nixon, Datallo, My= ke creating elegant routines to perform difficult tasks with 8-bit PIC's in= assembler. Those where the days my friend ... > I wonder, am I the only person left using a PicKit2, with MPLAB IDE 8.xx,= assembler programming 12F and 16F chips? My chips only have 2 or 3 numbe= rs following the "F"? I moved on from PICs to Cortexes. I might have gone to PIC32 instead if=20 Microchip had provided a decent free C++ compiler... > Those were the characteristics that encouraged beginners to move to PIC's= after playing with the Parallax Basic Stamp. With linked files and project= s, those days are gone. Systems like the Arduino mean programmers are slow = to grasp processors at the machine level. I use Arduino's (but mostly the Due, not the Uno) both privatly and for=20 my classes (C++ and assembler). But with my home-grown development=20 environment instead of the Arduino IDE. > By the way, I used this question as an excuse to post with a topic identi= fier [PIC]. I haven't seen many of those lately on the [PIC] list. > I fear the PICs are a dead end now. Lots of existing applications, so=20 the sales will go on for quite a while, but the new exiting things are=20 happening elsewhere (Cortexes, ESP8266). And the interesting questions & answers are now on Stack Exchange -=20 Electrical Engineering. Today I even saw an attempt there by Russel to=20 soften a comment from Olin. That brings back memories of the Piclist's=20 glorious past! Wouter van Ooijen --=20 http://www.piclist.com/techref/piclist PIC/SX FAQ & list archive View/change your membership options at http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/piclist .