Hi all, I have a customer who services institutional and public clocks The vast majority of their installations have been 30-second 12VDC solenoid ratchet/pawl mechanisms, for which I make PIC-based drivers http://waitingtrain.blogspot.co.nz/2015/05/a-large-gents-turret-slave-movem= ent.html They tend to be brass/heavy/old/expensive/eventually wearing out An advantage of them is that it's easy to single-step or fast-forward (eg daylight saving) with pushbuttons, you just pulse the solenoid as required. Because of the ratchet they can't go backwards, electrically anyway They're thinking of converting some to 230VAC synchronous motors https://www.cousinsuk.com/category/movements-clock-mains-synchronous That does mean someone will be up and down ladders all day when it comes time to adjust them if I can't sort out electronic control I have an induction motor speed control design which will generate three phases of variable frequency (0-55Hz) 230VAC from rectified mains, using a dsPIC, PWM and an STGIPS20K60 IGBT module. A single-phase motor is put across any two outputs. As the clock motors draw < 30mA I'd use two small discrete IGBTs, with an effective 100Hz 230VAC output. A relay will switch the motor over to this for fast-forwarding. To advance an hour it would run at 100Hz for 2 hours I've not investigated yet how easy it is to make them run backwards (eg there might be a worm, or capacitor/switch [unlikely] (shaded pole start winding ?)). For my DC units I simply pause the drive for an hour, and synchronous motors shouldn't get ahead of time anyway It's been suggested to me though that such a motor will lose torque at the doubled frequency. Here are a couple of Google results These doesn't really mention anything at higher frequencies. VFD seems to be more of an industrial thing, increasing speed to overcome load inertia etc but not exceeding mains frequency http://www.engineering.com/ElectronicsDesign/ElectronicsDesignArticles/Arti= cleID/8154/Changing-an-Induction-Motors-Power-Supply-Frequency-Between-50-a= nd-60Hz.aspx http://ecmweb.com/basics/understanding-variable-speed-drives-part-2?page=3D= 2 Some say here that V must be increased to maintain the V-f ratio, some don't https://in.answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=3D20090706032855AAL5TtK Does anyone have practical experience of what might actually happen ? It would be quite an exercise to make a circuit + s/w and I don't want to waste time on that if the end result is a predictable failure TIA Joe=20 ----- No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2016.0.7539 / Virus Database: 4556/12096 - Release Date: 04/24/16 --=20 http://www.piclist.com/techref/piclist PIC/SX FAQ & list archive View/change your membership options at http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/piclist .