One thing I do like, the programmer attached to the dev board enumerates as a mass storage device. Programming is done via drag and drop the hex file. I suspect there may be some useful tidbits if they release that source code= .. -Denny --=20 http://www.piclist.com/techref/piclist PIC/SX FAQ & list archive View/change your membership options at http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/piclist .