The story of loading bits into a 2102 by hand with toggle switches reminds me of my PROM programmer for the Monolithic Memories 6330-1 PROM. My "programmer" consisted of some BCD thumbwheel switches that I'd use to set the address in octal (since they were not hex switches, I had to stop at 7). I had a rotary switch that selected which of the 8 data pins I was looking at. A push button switch would drive the common of the rotary switch with Vpp (which I think was 12V) to blow the nichrome fuse in the chip. I programmed several hundred chips this way (they determined the decimal point position on a telemetry system for radio stations, and every one was different). Harold --=20 FCC Rules Updated Daily at http://www.hallikainen.com Not sent from an iPhone. --=20 http://www.piclist.com/techref/piclist PIC/SX FAQ & list archive View/change your membership options at http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/piclist .