> it also installed VB, I thought I'd try that, and it was *very* easy. I=92ll third that. The VB program in here: http://www.instructables.com/id/Serial-Controlled-V= ariable-Speed-Motor/ was written without any prior experience with VB. (It=92s not just that th= e language is easy, but also that =85 it had the capabilities that I looked= for, and the documentation/help/etc was good enough to be able to FIND tho= se capabilities.) There are some VB-like development environments that work on multiple platf= orms (RealBasic is one. (actually, I don=92t know how VB-like it is, or wh= ether they still exist. It=92s been a while.)) BillW --=20 http://www.piclist.com/techref/piclist PIC/SX FAQ & list archive View/change your membership options at http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/piclist .