James has it exactly right. They need to get some quick gratification at least at first. Especially, don't underestimate the kids. They are amazingly quick to pick things up. The challenge is moving fast enough that they don't get bored. On Thu, 2015-11-12 at 22:52 +1100, James Cameron wrote: > Yes. Kids are automatically ready at that stage. That's not the > problem though; the problem is to keep them interested with the > possibilities. Having to install, configure and test an IDE or tool > chain is boring yak-shaving. It has to be ready. >=20 > On Thu, Nov 12, 2015 at 10:47:22AM +0100, Kevin McGuinness wrote: > > Thanks for all of the feedback. I had never heard of the Sparkfun RedBo= t > > nor ChipKit. > >=20 > > In terms of programming these devices, you could use MPLAB, > > arduino/ArduBlock or LabVIEW. Which of these tools would be most suitab= le > > for a 12 year old? > >=20 > > To put it another way, for kids who have used Scratch and edited a pyth= on > > file, would they then ready to take the plunge into the IDEs mentioned = in > > the recent "[OT] PC Software Development tools?" discussion? > >=20 > > Kevin > >=20 > > On 11 November 2015 at 23:00, Brooke Clarke wrote: > >=20 > > > Hi: > > > > > > Did you consider ChipKit? > > > http://chipkit.net/ > > > > > > I found out about them because of the home version of LabVIEW < > > > http://www.prc68.com/I/LabVIEW.html>. > > > It's my understanding it uses not only Arduino shields, but also Pmod= s > > > some of which are based on very sophisticated ICs. > > > http://digilentinc.com/Products/Catalog.cfm?NavPath=3D2,401&Cat=3D9 > > > > > > Mail_Attachment -- > > > Have Fun, > > > > > > Brooke Clarke > > > http://www.PRC68.com > > > http://www.end2partygovernment.com/2012Issues.html > > > http://www.prc68.com/I/DietNutrition.html > > > piclist-request@mit.edu wrote: > > > > [OT] Robots as an educational tool for kids > > > > > > -- > > > http://www.piclist.com/techref/piclist PIC/SX FAQ & list archive > > > View/change your membership options at > > > http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/piclist > > > > > --=20 > > http://www.piclist.com/techref/piclist PIC/SX FAQ & list archive > > View/change your membership options at > > http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/piclist >=20 > --=20 > James Cameron > http://quozl.linux.org.au/ --=20 http://www.piclist.com/techref/piclist PIC/SX FAQ & list archive View/change your membership options at http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/piclist .