On Tue, 2015-11-10 at 15:48 -0500, John Ferrell wrote: > Looks like a neat project. My ExpressPCB does not open the pcb & sch=20 > files. What should I be using? I use the gEDA suite - pcb for pcbs and gschem for schematics. Mostly cuz it's free and painless. --McD >=20 > On 11/10/2015 12:12 PM, John J. McDonough wrote: > > Just Sunday I was at Barnes & Noble and the local high school robotics > > club were demonstrating their projects there. They had some very > > impressive (large) robots. I suspect the club must have had significan= t > > funding, probably from local foundations. I don't have any contact > > information for them but it was the Dow High School in Midland, > > Michigan., > > > > I am involved in the electronics club of another high school in town, > > although we don't limit membership to only the high school. I have bee= n > > teaching the kids PIC programming and they are taking to it like ducks > > to water. > > > > They have already built up the traditional blink an LED circuit on > > solderless breadboards and programmed them. It was incredible how > > little guidance it took. > > https://gitlab.com/33EV-GM1/dsPIC-presentations/raw/master/02-StartingW= ithMPLAB/02-StartingWithMPLAB.pdf > > https://gitlab.com/33EV-GM1/dsPIC-presentations/raw/master/03-AdvancedB= linkAnLED/03-AdvancedBlink.pdf > > > > Tonight they are going to build up a development board they will use to > > go farther > > https://gitlab.com/33E-simple/dsPIC-EL-GM > > https://gitlab.com/E-WCC/dsPIC-EL_Build_Instructions/raw/master/tmp/en-= US/pdf/dsPIC-EL-GM--Construction_Instructions-en-US.pdf > > > > In our case we chose the PIC rather than the Arduino because part of > > their objective is to run experiments in a high altitude balloon and > > size/weight/power considerations make the PIC more attractive. We will > > probably use a Raspberry Pi for some ground based components. > > > > The club was able to get some generous donations from a local Rotary > > Club and similar outfits so there is sufficient resource to provide the > > club members with the necessary bits and pieces. We meet in the Physic= s > > lab so there is space to build stuff. We did get a fair number of > > soldering stations but the number of members who showed up exceeded our > > expectations so we have a bit of an issue there. > > > > We did start out with an exercise to fish out what the kids were really > > interested in doing. It was a bit surprising that the big hitter was t= o > > "build something then program it". > > > > The kids were grinning ear to ear when they made their LED flash, even > > bigger grins when I gave them more parts and told them to just play. > > The older kids have often had C++ in class, younger ones sometimes VB. > > But the more experienced kids help out the younger ones. > > > > Kids these days are really, really smart if you give them a chance. > > > > --McD >=20 > --=20 > John Ferrell W8CCW > Julian NC 27283 > It is better to walk alone, > than with a crowd going the wrong direction. > --Diane Grant >=20 >=20 --=20 http://www.piclist.com/techref/piclist PIC/SX FAQ & list archive View/change your membership options at http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/piclist .