Brook, quite nice explanation! BTW we are almost on the same age, don't worry. :) I have never said a word about overunity gain. I said "free energy" using quotes. What you said about Q is perfect true in the actual laws of physics consensus. About 500 years ago the Earth was flat and stand in the center of our solar system. Sun was going around the Earth. People who said is not true almost die killed by the inquisition (Nicolaus Copernicus or Galileo Galilei, btw some of the younger talking here about law of physics never heard about those) I'm quite sure, in 500 years from now on, the actual electrical distribution system as we know it, will disappear, and the people will laugh about the law of physics from today. One of the worst thing is keeping our mind closed saying "this is the law, we can not broke it, because is the law". A law which was generated by a human brain and accepted in time as the absolute truth. I dislike discussing polemics, so I wish you all good luck in reading datasheets and never try anything else is written there. :) Vasile http://www.itim-cj.ro/~vasile/ On Sat, Oct 31, 2015 at 9:23 PM, Brooke Clarke wrote: > Hi embedded: > > About 3 or 4 decades ago I spent a couple of years full time studying RF > coils > by winding many and testing them using a Boonton Q meter. > http://www.prc68.com/I/Qmeters.html#Boonton160 > When I was getting my BSEE and MSEE degrees the textbooks did not cover > the properties of inductors and I ended up > buying books with titles containing Terman, Radiotron and Tesla's Colorad= o > Springs Notebook. > > The key idea Tesla discovered is that of Q multiplication. In his early > experiments he had what amounts to an RF > transformer, but later when he added a vertical mast made of metal pipe > and insulated with Champagne bottles and added a > capacitive top hat (various designs) this capacitance loaded the secondar= y > and allowed Q multiplication effect to work. > Note that a coil operating at self resonance does not exhibit Q > multiplication. > PS the photographs showing him near the secondary coil with lightening > bolts were all double exposures. > > Q multiplication will increase the voltage but NOT the power. > > -- > Have Fun, > > Brooke Clarke > http://www.PRC68.com > http://www.end2partygovernment.com/2012Issues.html > http://www.prc68.com/I/DietNutrition.html > > -- > > Date: Sat, 31 Oct 2015 17:00:54 +0200 > From: embedded systems > Subject: Re: [EE] New video reveals internals of Orbo PowerCube > To: "Microcontroller discussion list - Public." > Message-ID: > rjbSYCWmkK5m+QrxU1xsMGb2iqrHODjTm9U8mVfbuLPaLA@mail.gmail.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=3DUTF-8 > > On Sat, Oct 31, 2015 at 10:47 AM, James Cameron wrote: > > > On Sat, Oct 31, 2015 at 10:26:12AM +0200, embedded systems wrote: > >> The weird thing is that works. I've seen for the first time this > >> behavior on an old Grunding TV back in 1995 or so. The standby LED > >> keep lighting more than one full day with the TV unplugged from the > >> power supply. The filtering capacitors alone can't do that. That TV > >> had no backup battery... > > Did it happen to have an internal or external antenna resonant at a > > frequency for which there was a powerful transmitter nearby? ;-) > > > As long you have RF measurement tools you know the garbage you have > nearby...:) > Sure you can light a LED from an antenna, but when the LED is connected i= n > the power supply > chain of a TV (a very old one in which the high voltage is generated by t= wo > thyristors), you can't. > > I strongly and seriously suggest to review Nikola Tesla patents involving > resonance, > trying to understand what resonance is in his opinion. There are a few > dozens. > > Other*people with opened and rested minds* are "tariel kapanadze', > "akula' and so on. > > Enjoy at least the idea you don't understand what you see. :) > > > Mail_Attachment > -- > http://www.piclist.com/techref/piclist PIC/SX FAQ & list archive > View/change your membership options at > http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/piclist > --=20 http://www.piclist.com/techref/piclist PIC/SX FAQ & list archive View/change your membership options at http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/piclist .