Tamas, Wow! I didn't know that it was in the BIOS. That is very nasty. I=20 wouldn't buy Lenovo because of where it made. Now, I won't be buying=20 them even if they started making them in the states. I appreciate the info. Thanks, rich! On 9/25/2015 7:51 PM, Tamas Rudnai wrote: > Problem with Lenovo is that they placed their spy program in the BIOS, so > even if you enforce a complete HD format, remove all partitions, even if > you put a new partition table with MBR and all, you will still get that s= py > software at the end your brand new Windows install. This was not > implemented (or just partly) on the drivers, it was placed in the BIOS to > make sure they own your device no matter what. > > I mean, sure, usage data and it is important to them. So ask me first if = I > want to participate or not and if not, it means not... > > Apple, Google, Oracle, everyone is doing similar things with my consent a= nd > with the ability to opt out. If they do without it, they will lose my tru= st > just as Lenovo did...And trust is the hardest to win back -- for the next > 10 years or so I will not buy Lenovo products, that is for sure. > > Tamas > > > > > > --=20 http://www.piclist.com/techref/piclist PIC/SX FAQ & list archive View/change your membership options at http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/piclist .