All true, but in the USA there is currently a movement to protect kids=20 from abuse. Now, I'm not talking only about just physical abuse, but the=20 required training courses specifically classify hurt feelings as abuse.=20 If you yell, and the kid feels bad, that is deemed abuse under the new=20 laws in my state (PA). It doesn't even have to be the kid you were=20 telling at - he/she just has to hear the yelling. That, combined with=20 the mandatory reporting by some people (myself included) and punishment=20 for lack of reporting SUSPECTED abuse, make one very sensitive to the=20 feelings of minors (and in my opinion gives them too much power over=20 adults). So, if yelling at a kid is abuse that has emotional impacts, what=20 impacts would an arrest have on him? Everything you said could have been dealt with without the arrest. The=20 device could have been confiscated, analyzed, and found to be no more=20 threatening than the alarm clock nearly everyone has beside their bed. I have to wonder if they called in the bomb squad to retrieve the=20 device, or did someone just pick it up and carry it to the car? If the=20 latter, I bet they didn't follow proper procedure with respect to=20 suspected IEDs. It comes down to common sense, or the lack of it combined with the=20 paranoia that is running amok in this country. As I said in the first=20 line of my first reply... sometimes a clock is just a clock. People talk about not letting the terrorists win. News flash: They WON=20 on 9/11. The only way to not let them win WAS to not let them change our=20 society. That water is under the bridge and out to the ocean now. Joe M. On 9/18/2015 11:50 AM, John Ferrell wrote: > Please look at all the facts. The parties involved were not familiar > with the device that they encountered in the course of their normal > duties. Their instructions were followed properly, any unknowns > encountered are to be questioned. Until you know otherwise, everything > is a threat. The young man involved knows now what we have all learned > at some point in the past that precautions must be taken not to alarm > the public or appear as a threat to anyone. When you have a hammer in > your hand everything looks like a nail. > > When the local County Court House started the use of metal detectors I > was one of six people that was caught. My Swiss Army knife was deemed a > concealed weapon. Fortunately, I was allowed to return it to the car > rather than be confiscated. I hope the media has not caused any one to > reduce their diligence. > > I like cooking with pressure cookers. I have several. Probably enough to > raise suspicion. I am prepared to demonstrate cheerfully to any one > should I be asked. > > I have a nephew whose father is from Pakistan. Among his work duties is > piloting a twin engine airplane moving flight crews around for charter > flights. He says that if he were not challenged frequently, he would be > worried. He also says even he would not train anyone with his appearance > in a crop duster. BTW, his wedding was awesome, all those Marines in > dress uniforms... Lighten up guys, it is a mean world out there. > > Support law enforcement, they have to be paranoid to survive. > > > On 9/17/2015 8:53 AM, Isaac Marino Bavaresco wrote: >> I think they could publish the names and photos of the teachers, >> principal and police officers involved in the affair. >> >> Isaac >> > --=20 http://www.piclist.com/techref/piclist PIC/SX FAQ & list archive View/change your membership options at http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/piclist .