Thanks Dwayne, I use a very old USB powered intellimouse, it's a 5 button gaming mouse=20 (manufactured in 1998), and based on the battery life in the laptop=20 computer, my guess is that it pulls a hefty current. It does have 2=20 leds, one to power the scanning and another that is just a pilot lamp.=20 Led technology wasn't good in those days, so it's likely the reason for=20 the power sucking LED's. From your description of the shaking you have to do to wake up both=20 your units, it sounds like both of your mice have vibration sensors=20 built into them already. I suppose I could get used to shaking the mouse=20 to start it up, but a nice sensitive vibration sensor is what I'd prefer=20 to have. I have been looking at very cheap low end units, maybe that's why I=20 found they had power switches in them! Thanks so much for the info. Art ur mice already have vibration sensors to On 08/29/2015 08:54 PM, Dwayne Reid wrote: > My Microsoft Bluetooth wireless Intellimouse doesn't have a power > switch and the batteries (2x "AA") seems to last a couple of years. > > My Logitech Laser V470 mice *do* have power switches but the > batteries also seem to last a really long time. > > With both mice, I have to shake the mouse if it has been sitting idle > before the mouse pointer starts to move. I'm used to it and it > doesn't bother me. > > dwayne > > > At 05:01 PM 8/29/2015, Art wrote: >> Hi everyone, >> >> I am trying to find a low power wireless optical mouse without a power >> switch. While the microprocessor can be throttled back and the wireless >> transceiver can sleep when no movement is detected, the LED must still >> be powered as long as there might be movement. So, there is always need >> for a power switch. >> >> I'd like to eliminate the power switch by using a vibration sensor to >> turn the LED on when vibration is detected. I notice there are vibration >> sensors that claim to be sensitive on ebay: >> >> http://www.ebay.com/itm/Reflection-NEW-801S-Vibration-Sensor-Sensitive-f= or-Arduino-Highly-/291542737641?hash=3Ditem43e14d22e9 >> >> OR >> >> I am trying to find a low power wireless optical mouse without a power >> switch. While the microprocessor can be throttled back and the wireless >> transceiver can sleep when no movement is detected, the LED must still >> be powered as long as there might be movement. So, there is always need >> for a power switch. >> >> I'd like to eliminate the power switch by using a vibration sensor to >> turn the LED on when vibration is detected. I notice there are vibration >> sensors that claim to be sensitive on ebay: >> >> http://www.ebay.com/itm/Reflection-NEW-801S-Vibration-Sensor-Sensitive-f= or-Arduino-Highly-/291542737641?hash=3Ditem43e14d22e9 >> >> OR >> >> http://www.ebay.com/itm/10X-SW-520D-Vibration-Sensor-Metal-Ball-Tilt-Sha= king-Switch-NEW-Arrival-/271677896162?hash=3Ditem3f4143b5e2 >> >> And, I can get a low power Schmitt trigger cmos gate that draws around >> one microamp at 3 volts, and hook that up to disable the onboard LED >> when the mouse isn't moving (vibration isn't detected). >> >> I also have an idea about changing the geometry of the optical sensor to >> a reflective mode and narrowing the field of view for the sensor, so >> that the LED can be run at a significantly lower but that's a topic for >> another discussion): >> >> So, I have 2 questions........ >> >> Does anyone have experience with these small vibration sensors, are they >> sensitive to detect when a mouse is moved across a relatively smooth >> surface? >> >> AND >> >> Does anyone know which model wireless optical mouse has the lowest power >> consumption (best power management)? If so, what chip does it use?? >> >> Thanks, >> >> Art >> >> >> -- >> http://www.piclist.com/techref/piclist PIC/SX FAQ & list archive >> View/change your membership options at >> http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/piclist > --=20 http://www.piclist.com/techref/piclist PIC/SX FAQ & list archive View/change your membership options at http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/piclist .