I picked up an STM32 board earlier this year and quickly got frustrated=20 with figuring out which tool-chain to use. Partially because I don't=20 care much for Eclipse, and the community support isn't as good as with=20 PICs. It's just a lot to learn to get to a simple blinking LED, and I'm=20 not sure I want to spend all the time learning it until I know that ARMs=20 are the right path for me. This to me is why Arduinos have done so=20 well... not because of the processor/board, but because the tool chain=20 is easy to understand and learning is incremental after quickly getting=20 to a blinking LED. But then again, I'm not sure if to call the Arduino=20 IDE/compiler a tool-chain, as it's very limited. Another thing I've noticed is that PICs are very feature/peripheral-rich=20 compared with other processors. Cheers, -Neil. On 8/9/2015 8:48 PM, Bob Blick wrote: > On Sun, Aug 9, 2015, at 05:22 PM, Sean Breheny wrote: > >> I think that the most promising general-purpose hobby micros now are >> probably either MSP430s and their ilk as well as ARM-cored micros from >> several vendors like NXP. > Hi Sean, > MSP430 is starting to get a little weird. Peripheral locations, which > used to be constant from part-to-part within a series of parts, are now > moving around, ala Microchip. And the original gnu compiler, which is > great, is not being worked on anymore because TI hired Redhat to do a > new version of it and the original developer sort of saw that as an > off-ramp, I guess. It's not something I'd want to use right now, uses > lots more memory and there are bugs. Add to that the new parts with > extended addressing and MSP430 is kind of a mess right now. > > STM32 is pretty cool because everything's so cheap on aliexpress/ebay: > parts, debugger, development boards. > > Best regards, Bob > --=20 http://www.piclist.com/techref/piclist PIC/SX FAQ & list archive View/change your membership options at http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/piclist .