Op 10-Aug-15 om 2:22 AM schreef Sean Breheny: > I still use PICs for hobby use - although I don't know how much longer, b= ut > I do not think I would choose them again for a professional design. The > last time I chose one for work was around 2012. > > I think that the most promising general-purpose hobby micros now are > probably either MSP430s and their ilk as well as ARM-cored micros from > several vendors like NXP. > > I started with Microchip 16C84 when it was the only kid in town. No=20 cheap programmer? Designed my own. No good (free!) compiler available?=20 Let's write one! I did classes on Microchip assembler (and later C too) with my own=20 sort-of development board, which went through a few iterations. But since those way-back-then days cheap ARM chips became available, and=20 I teach C++, so I have switched to ARM/Cortex and GCC. Things could have=20 been different if Microchip had provided a decent and free C++ support=20 when the MX32 wass introduced. Of course I still lurk the PIClist. For direct EE questions which have=20 an objective answer, I now prefer StackEchange/ElectricalEngineering.=20 Some of the old-days piclisters hang out there too. But for more=20 discussion-oriented questions the piclist still seems to be a good place. Wouter van Ooijen --=20 http://www.piclist.com/techref/piclist PIC/SX FAQ & list archive View/change your membership options at http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/piclist .