I think I've now shipped to everyone who PayPal'd me a few bucks for shipping... If you haven't received them in a few days. If you aren't willing or can't chip in for the postage, but think you can figure out how to program one of these and promise to share what you learn, I'll send you out a couple for free. Just send me your shipping address (offlist, obviously) and say "I promise I'll try to program it and share what I learned" in the email. If you already emailed me, I'll try to sort it out and send you a couple soon... I like to assume the best. --=20 James Newton MassMind.org 1-970-462-7764 --=20 http://www.piclist.com/techref/piclist PIC/SX FAQ & list archive View/change your membership options at http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/piclist .