Google image search "telescopic desk lamp", about six of the first dozen have the light supported on a pair of telescopic antennas. To keep from having "unsightly wires" they use the antenna sticks as the conductors. So, yeah, 12V on parts that are more or less meant to be touched while live. Not my favorite bit of kit... -Denny --=20 http://www.piclist.com/techref/piclist PIC/SX FAQ & list archive View/change your membership options at http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/piclist .