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~ Bob Ammerman
RAm Systems

> -----Original Message-----
> From: piclist-bounces@mit.edu [mailto:piclist-bounces@mit.edu] On Behalf
> Of Bob Ammerman
> Sent: Tuesday, April 07, 2015 12:46 PM
> To: 'Microcontroller discussion list - Public.'
> Subject: RE: [EE] Re: USB PIDs for all
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> Olin bought his from Wouter, and just bought another batch from him
> recently. (I know because I wrote the windows device driver Olin uses to
talk
> to his USB devices)
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> ~ Bob Ammerman
> RAm Systems
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> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: piclist-bounces@mit.edu [mailto:piclist-bounces@mit.edu] On
> > Behalf Of Martin K
> > Sent: Tuesday, April 07, 2015 10:24 AM
> > To: Microcontroller discussion list - Public.
> > Subject: [EE] Re: USB PIDs for all
> >
> >
> > On 4/7/2015 10:05 AM, Vitaliy M wrote:
> > > http://hackaday.com/2015/04/03/usb-pids-for-all/
> > >
> > > "The USB Implementers' Forum doesn't make things easy for anyone
> > building a product with a USB port. To sell anything with USB and have
> > it
> work
> > like USB should, you need to buy a USB Vendor ID, a $5000 license that
> grants
> > you exclusive use of 65,536 USB Product IDs. Very few companies will
> > ever release 65,000 products, and there are a lot of unused PIDs
> > sitting around
> out
> > there.
> > > Now, someone has finally done the sensible thing and put an unused
> > > USB
> > VID to work. pid.codes obtained the rights to a single VID - 0x1209 -
> > and
> now
> > they're parceling off all the PIDs that remain to open source hardware
> > projects.
> > >
> > > This is not a project supported by the USB Implementers' Forum, and
> > > is
> > more of a legal game of chicken on the part of pid.codes. The only
> > thing
> the
> > USB-IF could do to stop this is revoke the original VID; useless,
> > because
> they
> > can't reassign it to anyone else. The original owners of the VID,
> > InterBiometrics, licensed their VID before transferring or
> > sublicensing
> VIDs
> > and PIDs was prohibited by the USB-IF.
> > >
> > > You can get a PID by forking the pid.codes repo, claiming a PID, and
> sending
> > a pull request. Once that's accepted, that PID is yours forever."
> > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> > People have tried this before. I wish them luck, but the USB IF will
> > put
> up a
> > fight.
> >
> > I think Olin might have tried it, and Wouter actually re-sold PIDs. He
> > got
> a
> > cease-and-desist.
> >
> > -
> > Martin
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