Copper and Silver are both known to have healing powers and or sterilizatio= n properties in Ayurvedic Medication, also with many ancient cultures. There has been so much research on the topic and it seems that humankind seems to loose technology over periods of time. http://shodhganga.inflibnet.ac.in/bitstream/10603/17116/9/09_chapter%202.pd= f http://tarn-pure.com/history https://tue.iitm.ac.in/water-in-india/Water-in-India.html On Tue, Apr 7, 2015 at 7:19 PM, RussellMc wrote: > I would be interested in comments from anyone who feels they have good > scientific (whatever that may mean) grounds for believing that colloidal > silver or other silver compounds are useful in any aspect of human health= , > and what these areas are and why they think them valid. > > People who think otherwise are of course free to comment *BUT* there is a= ny > amount of "anti" material available (and understandably so) and I'm more > interested in 'leads' which are *potentially *positive. > > _______________________________ > > I'm (hopefully) about to do some playing with colloidal silver with a > specific medical aim in mind. > *This is an area utterly awash with charlattans, snake oil sellers, the o= dd > over unity pusher and many more. * > > It also seems that CS does actually "work" in specific situations. There > are substantial numbers of studies and peer reviewed papers on the subjec= t > which, it seems, increasingly come down on the plus side of the ledger. > Particle size and even shape seems to matter. I suspected that somebody > would have found out that use with nano-titanium-dioxide would be > especially effective, and lo, it verily is so, with peer reviewed papers > following in support. and, for many years, colloidal silver has been used > in fired-clay water-filters / containers to provide disinfection AND > residual disinfection of otherwise contaminated water, and good stats are > available on efficacy. > > You know you are in trouble when the proper end product is clear and if y= ou > make coloured stuff its bad and you detect the good stuff by shining a > LASER beam through the good solution *BUT* that is indeed how "it works, > and there are good "scientific" reasons for it. > > You know you are in trouble when the proper generators have to use consta= nt > current and the ones that use constant or unregulated voltage are no good= - > obvious quackery *BUT* that is indeed how "it works" and there are good > "scientific" reasons for it. > > Interestingly, there were a few published papers in the early post 2000 > period which determined that CS was completely ineffective. Since then > a significant number > of published papers have concluded otherwise > , but certainly not all > . > Maybe it gets stronger as we enter the house of .... :-). > > > > > > Russell > _________________________________________________________________________= __________ > > http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/15114827 > J Wound Care. 2004 > Apr;13(4):154-5. > Colloidal silver as an antimicrobial agent: fact or fiction? > > Conclusion: As the tested colloidal silver solutions did not show any > antimicrobial effect in vitro on the microorganisms, claims of colloidal > silver's antimicrobial potency are misleading and there is no place for i= t > as an antiseptic. > > ______________________ > > These relate to silver generally - often as AgNO3. > Note that results can be organism and perhaps environment specific. > > > And / But: > > silver antiseptic pubmed > > https://www.google.co.nz/webhp?sourceid=3Dchrome-instant&ion=3D1&espv=3D2= &ie=3DUTF-8#q=3Dsilver+antiseptic+pubmed > > > Many (certainly not all) of these lean the other way > > 1966. It works > Full paper free: > http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC1944329/pdf/brmedj02369-0026.= pdf > ... Methods of preventing contamination of burns are described. Controll= ed > trials showed the outstanding prophylactic value of 0.5 % silver nitrate > compresses applied to burns, and significant, though smaller, effects of = a > cream containing 0.5 % silver nitrate. The greatest effect was against Ps= .. > aeruginosa and Proteus spp.; a trial in patients with extensive burns > showed Ps. aeruginosa in 70% of swabs from the control series (treated wi= th > penicillin cream), but in only 3.1% of swabs from the series treated with > silver nitrate compresses. ... > ... *There was less prophylactic effect against Staph. aureus and none > against certain coliform bacilli. * > Treatment with silver nitrate applications was associated with lower mean > temperature and respiration rates, and other clinical advantages. No toxi= c > effects attributable to silver nitrate were detected, and the application= s, > though uncomfortable, were not painful. > > 1999. It doesn't. > http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/10384851 > > 2009. Good and bad. > http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/19131809 > > 1976. Works. Even better with Cerium > http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/135364 > > 1988 Selective > http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/2895140 > > 2009 - strongly anti-popular article > https://www.sciencebasedmedicine.org/hi-ho-silver/ > > Wikipedia > Much & mostly negative > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Medical_uses_of_silver > But eg > Electrolytically-dissolved silver has been used as a water disinfecting > agent, for example, the drinking water supplies of the Russian Mir orbita= l > station and the International Space > Station .[44] > Many > modern hospitals filter hot water through copper-silver filters to defeat > MRSA and legionella infections.[45] > > :29 The World Health Organization > includes silver = in > a colloidal state produced by electrolysis of silver electrodes in water, > and colloidal silver in water filters as two of a number of water > disinfection methods specified to provide safe drinking water in developi= ng > countries .[46] > Along > these lines, a ceramic filtration system coated with silver particles has > been created by Ron Rivera > of Potters for > Peace and used in > developing countries for water disinfection (in this application the silv= er > inhibits microbial growth on the filter substrate, to prevent clogging, a= nd > does not directly disinfect the filtered water).[47] > > [48] [4= 9] > > -- > http://www.piclist.com/techref/piclist PIC/SX FAQ & list archive > View/change your membership options at > http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/piclist -- http://www.piclist.com/techref/piclist PIC/SX FAQ & list archive View/change your membership options at http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/piclist .