> > > Long ago when I managed to flash ignite the rear of my pajama coat the > 1st > > 2 choices I tried did not work and the 3rd one worked but in the proces= s > I > > managed to burn one hand near the base of the thumb so well that the sk= in > > cracked as does a barbecued sausage that has not been spiked or slit. M= y > > back was worse :-). The 4th choice, which did not occur to me until > > afterwards would have been better than anything I tried, have minimised > > damage to my back and I'd not have burnt my hand at all. > > Don't you remember the "roll dick roll" commercials? > https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3DtP85Iz1L6nI > A similar one was on ~30 years ago in NZ > > The proper way to ask that question is "Do you remember ..." :-) "Don't you remember ..." carries body language and lilt of speech that can be heard across a T1 line or few. Or can seem to even if it's not there. I was wondering if the "you should have just ..." suggestions would start. And, I agree. I should have. But ... I'm not unaccustomed to pain, although I don't cultivate its attentions as some do. Motorcycling: Hit by a car side on (his fault), hit by a car head on (his fault), fell off about weekly for quite some years (my fault) ... Various broken mangled parts along the way. Usual assortment. SO Pajama coat kawhoomps into flame. Why may be found in PICList archives (Pajama stove fire russell mcmahon piclist should suffice). - Try and take it off. Pain messages are somehow cloying fingers. Hands do not work. Buttins become sown in place. Coat is made of chain mail (except at the back). Abandon choice 1. - Roll on the floor, they say. Room is small - don't fit to roll Dick style. Lie head-feet axis along room and roll. More like writhe. Pain is surprisingly large. After a few hours subjective I do not seem to be winning or have won. Fire picks up about instantly. OK. Abandon choice two. - Turn on kitchen taps hard. single mixer outlet at about mid back level. Filling containers is going to take several 10's of millions of microseconds. Back against sink edge. Wave hands through water stream to splash it into flames. Probably much less good than alternatives but that's where brain/pain/body had got to. After a few million microseconds it was working so I kept it up. My TX comms channel had apparently being outputting loud "Help help help" message the while. I didn't really recall this bit I was assured it was so by the all 3 family members who came apace. By about their arrival time it was out= .. Take stock. Back burned very nicely over maybe palm sized area - more so at centre. Amazing really. Luke warm bath was run and I lay in it until it was obvious that the pain demanded A&E regardless. However, when waving water onto flames it seems one had done all or most of the work and the other had had minimal water on it - it had instead just been being waved in and out of the flames. Exploded bbq sausage hand happened. Great fun. Lessons: Ordinary cotton thickish pajama jacket when heated gently away from skin with high energy radiant source can rise to near flash point over s asignifcant area and then flash to flame essentially instantly. Sound was akin to the whoomph of petrol igniting! Have a plan. Know what it will really be like. Understand what is really needed. Realise that most people will never achieve the prior 3 aims. This may be useful when teaching children what it takes. How?: OK Stupidity. Cold winters night. Maybe 2am. Finish downstairs in workshop. Dress in pajamas. Make cup of hot milk (as I recall) Turn radiant stove element on full as heater. Lean against stove near heater, drink milk, read book, repeat ... Pajama coat may have ridden up and been trapped on stove and bulged backwards over glowing element to get a good superheated bulk. When it went a goodly area went at once. And we were off. I kept the coat :-). Russell > -- > John La Rooy > -- > http://www.piclist.com/techref/piclist PIC/SX FAQ & list archive > View/change your membership options at > http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/piclist > --=20 http://www.piclist.com/techref/piclist PIC/SX FAQ & list archive View/change your membership options at http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/piclist .