This is all useful stuff but perhaps we should update the subject line and topic tag. Thanks, Bob On Thu, Mar 19, 2015, at 06:27 PM, James Cameron wrote: > On Thu, Mar 19, 2015 at 08:51:48PM -0400, Jean-Paul Louis wrote: > > Yes, I am using Apple Mail client. > > > > I have tried other mail clients like Thunderbird, but there was no > > noticeable improvement. The frustration comes from the fact that > > this behaviour is not consistent. > >=20 > > Sometimes I can go several weeks without issues. If it is a setting > > issue, I would love to hear from the experts, and fix it. >=20 > I'm familiar with the problem you face because I help manage > laptop.org mail server and mailing lists, and we get this kind of > thing often. >=20 > Yes, there is an inconsistency over time, and this can be because of > the scoring methods used in the mail classification software. The > scoring methods change over time according to the advertising efforts > of others. But the inconsistency also suggests that you're right on > the threshold, and there may be some things you can do to fix your > scores. >=20 > That can be hard to do without knowing the scoring system. >=20 > I've briefly looked at your messages. > Here's a recent example: >=20 > http://dev.laptop.org/~quozl/z/1YYlcH.txt >=20 > Looking at the X-Mailer header, you are now on Mac OS X Mail 8.2. So > I don't think it is your mail client. Looking at it over the past > year, I see you are regularly applying updates to Apple Mail, the last > being about 12 posts ago, around the start of February. >=20 > Looking at the other headers, there's lots of stuff added by Yahoo. > Yahoo gets a slightly worse score because it was so easy to create new > accounts there. >=20 > The X-Brightmail-Tracker is being inserted by an instance of Symantec > Message Filter at mit.edu. >=20 > http://www.symantec.com/business/support/index?page=3Dcontent&id=3DTECH12= 2796 >=20 > Of the things you might try, the most successful may be to change your > PIClist subscription to another mail provider. Mac OS X Mail can > handle a number of mail accounts at once. >=20 > --=20 > James Cameron > http://quozl.linux.org.au/ --=20 http://www.fastmail.com - A fast, anti-spam email service. --=20 http://www.piclist.com/techref/piclist PIC/SX FAQ & list archive View/change your membership options at http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/piclist .