> the remnant of clay which sticks to the toner seems to react with > the etchant and generates bubbles. Hi John, I had to make a couple of PCBs today and made a note to watch closely. Everything was prepared as normal I did see what you wrote about and then recalled a board or two which had unexplained small unetched areas, as though a bubble had been trapped when laying the board upside-down on the surface. Bubbles I'm sure shouldn't and couldn't have been there I deliberately put the first board in copper side up, on the bottom of tray. At this point I'd usually walk away and come back in a few minutes, but this time I watched carefully For about a minute, with the light just right, I saw many very small bubbles, like a slow and gentle fizzing. If that board had been upside-down as usual they probably would have merged to larger bubbles that blocked the etchant getting to the copper It stopped producing bubbles after about a minute so I took it out, rinsed and dried it, then put it back in, this time upside-down on the surface. It etched perfectly, as I'd hoped because this had a lot of closely- spaced parallel lines going to an SMT memory chip Thanks for upping my standards Joe ----- No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2015.0.5751 / Virus Database: 4311/9339 - Release Date: 03/19/15 --=20 http://www.piclist.com/techref/piclist PIC/SX FAQ & list archive View/change your membership options at http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/piclist .