> go to MPJA.com Apart from the vampire connector, didn't see a "very specialised" tool for these LED strips No doubt there is one, but MPJA probably don't got it. I'm sure with enough determination they can be hand-soldered. Personally I'd go with their 79c doodad. The only reservation is that dissimilar metal connections exposed to the weather tend to fail by electrolytic corrosion, whereas a solder joint wouldn't Joe ----- No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2015.0.5751 / Virus Database: 4299/9200 - Release Date: 02/28/15 --=20 http://www.piclist.com/techref/piclist PIC/SX FAQ & list archive View/change your membership options at http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/piclist .