>> Then in desperation I called MPJA to see if they could help me. >> Their TECH support person told me you cannot solder to them >> with out VERY specialized tools >=20 >=20 > It would be very interesting to know what the very specialised tools > did that made it work and what the barriers are to doing it by "other > means". Might be some sort of mini spot welder, as used for battery terminals. If not, it's not unlikely that 'tech support' will be discouraging DIY in favour of the company's after-sales products which aren't always that specialised. But you'll probably have to buy one to find that out ;))) Fait accompli Joe ----- No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2015.0.5751 / Virus Database: 4299/9186 - Release Date: 02/26/15 --=20 http://www.piclist.com/techref/piclist PIC/SX FAQ & list archive View/change your membership options at http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/piclist .