James, That is correct. If you want or need that info it is in the=20 datasheet. When you go to the store to buy one there are two things=20 available on the box. They are the style and the trip current rating. Thanks, rich! On 2/16/2015 9:58 PM, James Cameron wrote: > I'll take that as meaning the rated holding current is not printed, > and that the breakers may well be designed for the rated holding > current, and then labelled for the trip current. > > Thanks. That's interesting. You have a truly unique system that I'd > never heard of. That 80% rule is really strange. > > In Australia, the breakers are labelled and specified for the rated > holding current. > > This labelling follows the international and European standards, > e.g. IEC/EN EN 60898-1 ... with a single letter prefix for specifying > the instantaneous tripping current as a _multiplier_ of current, not > as a _percentage_ as you do. > > The 20 stamped on your breakers would be a C16 stamped on our > breakers, which means a rated holding current of 16 A, and an > instantaneous trip current above 80 A and up to 160 A. > > Instantaneous meaning less than 100 ms (five cycles at 50 Hz). > > Special loads are given different instantaneous trips. > > Your "nothing else matters to us" is carefully noted. This is a > difference between engineering and electrical code contracting. ;-) > Procedures that reduce risk by reducing thought, and therefore > possibilities for error. > > Thanks to Eoin for the links. The products there don't have any 80% > rule; the Eaton products use the C and D tripping curves. They list > IEC/EN 60947-2, and also UL. > > On Mon, Feb 16, 2015 at 09:02:49PM -0600, Richard R. Pope wrote: >> James, >> The breakers sold and used in the US are rated at 80% continuous >> current of what is stamped on the handle. This is required by UL labs >> and the NEC. So if the handle has a 20 stamped on it the instantaneous >> trip current is 20 amps and the maximum continuous holding current is 16 >> amps. This is the law here. You can download the datasheet for whatever >> model that you want more info on. To us installers all we care about is >> what is the number on the handle, is it an arc-fault breaker, (this was >> required as of 2013 in the US), and is it UL listed. Nothing else >> matters to us. I have never done any additional research beyond that. >> Thanks, >> rich! >> >> On 2/16/2015 8:01 PM, James Cameron wrote: >>> Is the rated holding current printed anywhere on the breaker? >>> --=20 http://www.piclist.com/techref/piclist PIC/SX FAQ & list archive View/change your membership options at http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/piclist .