James, Two things are important for installers. The amp rating that is=20 printed on the handle.. Then there will be a label on the side and the=20 installer needs to make sure that it is UL certified. Whatever is on the=20 handle is the rated trip current. No other information is required by=20 the installer. Thanks, rich! On 2/16/2015 6:37 PM, James Cameron wrote: > I'm not surprised, but as I'm not in the US, it's only of academic > interest. As I said, I'm more interested in the physics and the > specification of the parts. > > Is the label required to be different to that specification? If so, > that's a can of worms. > > On Mon, Feb 16, 2015 at 06:20:51PM -0600, Richard R. Pope wrote: >> James, >> In the US the NEC is a legal requirement. Local codes must be at >> least as restrictive as the NEC. Also if the wiring is not done to code >> and the fire is caused by the poor wiring the insurance does not have to >> pay. If someone is hurt or killed than the person who did the wiring is >> now open to criminal and civil charges. >> I always consider the code as a starting point. As I said before I >> wire all of the 15 amp 14 gauge circuits to 20 amp 12 gauge specs. I >> also put in any where from 20 to 100% more circuits depending on the >> life style of the home owner. In Wisconsin 100 amp panels are required. >> I always install 200 amp or larger panels. >> Thanks, >> rich! >> >> On 2/16/2015 6:08 PM, James Cameron wrote: >>> Agreed. >>> >>> I've always considered the critical specification of a circuit breaker >>> to be the highest current it can hold and not trip, assuming standard >>> test conditions ... such as voltage, temperature, humidity, magnetic >>> fields, vibration, gravity, orientation, mounting, atmosphere content, >>> and atmosphere pressure. >>> >>> What some provincial code then says about it, and how it requires any >>> relabelling or use, is less interesting than the physics. But if the >>> label is required to be different to that specification, that's >>> something to watch out for. >>> >>> On Mon, Feb 16, 2015 at 06:40:20PM -0500, Allen Mulvey wrote: >>>> See: >>>> http://ecmweb.com/basics/sizing-circuit-breaker >>>> >>>> "A CB is designed and evaluated to carry 100% of its rated >>>> current for an indefinite period of time under standard test >>>> conditions." >>>> >>>> The important part is "under standard test conditions." In >>>> the real world the circuit breaker is likely to heat up >>>> above "standard" test temperature. The 1996 NEC code >>>> compensates for this by requiring you to use breakers rated >>>> at least 20% higher than the anticipated load. >>>> >>>> Allen >>>> --=20 http://www.piclist.com/techref/piclist PIC/SX FAQ & list archive View/change your membership options at http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/piclist .