Humm I disagree ... I've wanted a machine like this for 10 years, and=20 have spent $3K getting something ancient (early 90s) via ebay that was=20 way too much time to update (total rewrite of firmware and software=20 required), and spent $2K on ballscrews and optical encoders and linear=20 rail for a from-scratch something better I paper designed, also=20 abandoned for lack of time. (I should have known better than to even=20 consider it, but I was determined.) If the pick area can hold 70+ tapes / small trays of loose parts and a=20 8x10" pcb, I'm sold. Having a way to make a few to 10s of pcbs with=20 hundreds of parts on demand is a game changer, not only for protos but=20 for initial tiny production for clients. 10 day turnaround with $300+=20 NRE is the only sensible option and that often sets the schedule. For=20 me to be able to put several pcbs on the table and say go and have them=20 placed even several hours later is game changer. I'm happy to manually=20 change nozzles or load new tapes of 10Ks or 1uFs, no problem, I'll be 10=20 feet away at the computer working anyway. But I'll wait until others build and discuss... Tx russell for the post! J Mike Harrison wrote: > On Sun, 8 Feb 2015 20:28:11 +1300, you wrote: > >> This appears close to awesome. >> Just getting to market now - first production run available shortly AFAI= CS. >> >> "Proper" pick and place with optical recognition of components, >> orientation, component "bins"*, fiducials, board dimensions etc. > > It's not a "proper" P&P without proper feeders. > It's no quicker than manual placing, plus you have the setup time. > > Very limited usefulness IMO > --=20 http://www.piclist.com/techref/piclist PIC/SX FAQ & list archive View/change your membership options at http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/piclist .